The Seven Books of Arnobius Against the Heathen. (Adversus Gentes.) 4

Arnobio (255–327 d.C.) · Disputationes adversus gentes · PL 5, 718–1288

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1. We would ask you, and you above all, O Romans, lords and princes of the world, whether you think that Piety, Concord, Safety, Honour, Virtue, Happiness, and other such names, to which we see you rear altars and splendid temples, have divine power, and live in heaven? or, as is usual, have you classed them with the deities merely for form’s sake, because we desire and wish these blessings to fall to our lot? For if, while you think them empty names without any substance, you yet deify them with divine honours, you will have to consider whether that is a childish frolic, or tends to bring your deities into contempt, when you make equal, and add to their number vain and feigned names. But if you have loaded them with temples and couches, holding with more assurance that these, too, are deities, we pray you to teach us in our ignorance, by what course, in what way, Victory, Peace, Equity, and the others mentioned among the gods, can be understood to be gods, to belong to the assembly of the immortals?

Interrogare vos libet, ipsosque ante omnia romanos dominos rerum ac principes, utrumne existimatis Pietatem, Concordiam, Salutem, Honorem, Virtutem, Felicitatem, caeteraque hujusmodi nomina, quibus aras videmus a vobis cum magnificis exaedificatas delubris, vim habere divinam, coelique in regionibus degere? aut, ut assolet, dicis causa ex eo, quod optamus et volumus bona ista nobis contingere, superorum retuleritis in censum? Nam si verba existimantes haec cassa, et nullius substantiae nomina, divinis tamen religionibus consecratis, erit vobis videndum, utrumne istud puerile sit ludicrum, an vestrorum numinum delusionem spectans, quibus coaequatis et adjungitis inanium figmenta verborum? Sin autem ex animi certiore sententia deos esse et haec rati, templis et pulvinaribus onerastis, inscitiam nostram ut doceatis oramus, Victoria, Pax Aequitas, et caetera quae in superioribus dicta sunt, quanam ratione, qua via intelligi possunt dii esse, atque ad superorum concilium pertinere?

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2. For we—but, perhaps, you would rob and deprive us of common-sense—feel and perceive that none of these has divine power, or possesses a form of its own; but that, on the contrary, they are the excellence of manhood, the safety of the safe, the honour of the respected, the victory of the conqueror, the harmony of the allied, the piety of the pious, the recollection of the observant, the good fortune, indeed, of him who lives happily and without exciting any ill-feeling. Now it is easy to perceive that, in speaking thus, we speak most reasonably when we observe the contrary qualities opposed to them, misfortune, discord, forgetfulness, injustice, impiety, baseness of spirit, and unfortunate weakness of body. For as these things happen accidentally, and depend on human acts and chance moods, so their contraries, named after more agreeable qualities, must be found in others; and from these, originating in this wise, have arisen those invented names.

Nos enim, nisi forte communem tollitis nobis atque eripitis sensum, nihil horum sentimus et cernimus habere vim numinis, neque in aliqua contineri sui generis forma; sed esse virtutem viri, salutem salvi, honorem honorati, victoris victoriam, concordis concordiam, pietatem pii, memoriam memoris: feliciter vero viventis ac sine ullis offensionibus felicitatem. Quod a vobis verissime dici ex contrariis promptum est oppositionibus noscitare, infelicitate, discordia, oblivione, iniquitate, impietate, ignavia pectoris, et valetudine corporis minus fausta. Ut enim haec accidunt, hominumque sunt posita in actionibus, affectibus fortuitus; ita quod illis adversum est ex qualitatibus benignioribus nominatur, in aliis necesse est haereat, ex quibus ita formatis figuratio ista concepta est nominum.

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3. With regard, indeed, to your bringing forward to us other bands of unknown gods, we cannot determine whether you do that seriously, and from a belief in its certainty; or, merely playing with empty fictions, abandon yourselves to an unbridled imagination. The goddess Luperca, you tell us on the authority of Varro, was named because the fierce wolf spared the exposed children. Was that goddess, then, disclosed, not by her own power, but by the course of events? and was it only after the wild beast restrained its cruel teeth, that she both began to be herself and was marked by her name? or if she was already a goddess long before the birth of Romulus and his brother, show us what was her name and title. Præstana was named, according to you, because, in throwing the javelin, Quirinus excelled all in strength; and the goddess Panda, or Pantica, was named because Titus Tatius was allowed to open up and make passable a road, that he might take the Capitoline. Before these events, then, had the deities never existed? and if Romulus had not held the first place in casting the javelin, and if the Sabine king had been unable to take the Tarpeian rock, would there be no Pantica, no Præstana? And if you say that they existed before that which gave rise to their name, a question which has been discussed in a preceding section, tell us also what they were called.

Nam quod nobis catervas ignotorum alias inducitis deorum, existimare non possumus, utrumne istud serio, atque ex rei compertae faciatis fide: an fictionibus ludentes cassis ingeniorum lasciviatis luxu. Quod abjectis infantibus pepercit lupa non mitis, Luperca, inquit, dea est auctore appellata Varrone. Ex rerum ergo proventu, non ex vi naturae dea ista est prodita? et postquam feros morsus immanis prohibuit bellua, et ipsa esse occoepit, et ipsius nominis significantiam traxit? aut si fuit jamdudum dea, priusquam Romulus nasceretur et frater: cujus fuerit nominis atque appellationis expromite. Praestana est, ut perhibetis, dicta, quod Quirinus in jaculi missione cunctorum praestiterit viribus; et quod Tito Tatio, Capitolinum ut capiat collem, viam pandere atque aperire permissum est: dea Panda est appellata, vel Pantica. Ante facta haec ergo numquam fuerant numina: et nisi Romulus tenuisset teli trajectione palatium, nique Tarpeiam rupem rex Sabinus potuisset accipere, nulla esset Pantica, nulla Praestana? Et si has dicitis ante sui causam fuisse cognominis, quod in priore quaesitum est capite, cujus et hae fuerint vocaminis indicate.

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4. Pellonia is a goddess mighty to drive back enemies. Whose enemies, say, if it is convenient? Opposing armies meet, and fighting together, hand to hand, decide the battle; and to one this side, to another that, is hostile. Whom, then, will Pellonia turn to flight, since on both sides there will be fighting? or in favour of whom will she incline, seeing that she should afford to both sides the might and services of her name? But if she indeed did so, that is, if she gave her good-will and favour to both sides, she would destroy the meaning of her name, which was formed with regard to the beating back of one side. But you will perhaps say, She is goddess of the Romans only, and, being on the side of the Quirites alone, is ever ready graciously to help them. We wish, indeed, that it were so, for we like the name; but it is a very doubtful matter. What! do the Romans have gods to themselves, who do not help other nations? and how can they be gods, if they do not exercise their divine power impartially towards all nations everywhere? and where, I pray you, was this goddess Pellonia long ago, when the national honour was brought under the yoke at the Caudine Forks? when at the Trasimene lake the streams ran with blood? when the plains of Diomede were heaped up with dead Romans when a thousand other blows were sustained in countless disastrous battles? Was she snoring and sleeping; or, as the base often do, had she deserted to the enemies’ camp?

Pellendorum hostium dea potens Pellonia est. Quorumnam, nisi molestum est, edite. Confligunt partes, atque inter se cominus armorum collatione decernunt: et haec illi est pars hostis, et illa huic hostilis: quos ergo Pellonia, cum hinc et inde pugnabitur, pellet, aut in gratiam concessura est quorum, cum utrique debeat parti sui nominis vires officiumque praestare? Quod si utique fecerit, id est partibus si utrisque favorem ac suffragium commodarit, nominis sui vim perdet, quod partis unius in pulsione formatum est. Nisi forte dicetis, Romanorum tantum est dea haec, et cum solis Quiritibus faciens gratiosis semper opitulationibus praesto est. Esse quidem hoc ita, quod nomini favemus, optamus; at quaestionem non exiguam res habet. Quid enim Romani deos possident peculiares, qui aliarum gentium non sint? et quemadmodum poterunt dii esse, si non omnibus, quae ubique sunt gentes, aequabilitatem sui numinis exhibebunt? et ubi quaeso jamdudum Pellonia haec fuit, cum apud Furculas Caudinas decus publicum subjugatum est? cum apud Thrasumeni lacum sanguinei cucurrere torrentes? cum Diomedis campi romanis cadaveribus aggerati sunt? cum mille alia vulnera praeliorum innumeris accepta sunt cladibus? dormiebat, stertebat, aut quod vilia facere consueta sunt capita, in hostilia castra defugerat?

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5. The sinister deities preside over the regions on the left hand only, and are opposed to those on the right. But with what reason this is said, or with what meaning, we do not understand ourselves; and we are sure that you cannot in any degree cause it to be clearly and generally understood. For in the first place, indeed, the world itself has in itself neither right nor left, neither upper nor under regions, neither fore nor after parts. For whatever is round, and bounded on every side by the circumference of a solid sphere, has no beginning, no end; where there is no end and beginning, no part can have its own name and form the beginning. Therefore, when we say, This is the right, and that the left side, we do not refer to anything in the world, which is everywhere very much the same, but to our own place and position, we being so formed that we speak of some things as on our right hand, of others as on our left; and yet these very things which we name left, and the others which we name right, have in us no continuance, no fixedness, but take their forms from our sides, just as chance, and the accident of the moment, may have placed us. If I look towards the rising sun, the north pole and the north are on my left hand; and if I turn my face thither, the west will be on my left, for it will be regarded as behind the sun’s back. But, again, if I turn my eyes to the region of the west, the wind and country of the south are now said to be on my left. And if I am turned to this side by the necessary business of the moment, the result is, that the east is said to be on the left, owing to a further change of position,—from which it can be very easily seen that nothing is either on our right or on our left by nature, but from position, time, and according as our bodily position with regard to surrounding objects has been taken up. But in this case, by what means, in what way, will there be gods of the regions of the left, when it is clear that the same regions are at one time on the right, at another on the left? or what have the regions of the right done to the immortal gods, to deserve that they should be without any to care for them, while they have ordained that these should be fortunate, and ever accompanied by lucky omens?

Dii laevi, et laevae, sinistrarum tantum regionum sunt praesides, et inimici partium dexterarum. Quod quanam istud ratione dicatur, quove animi sensu, neque ipsi nos assequimur, nec a vobis confidimus posse in aliquam lucem communis intelligentiae perduci. Jam primum enim mundus ipse per se sibi neque dexteras, neque laevas, neque superas regiones, neque imas, neque anticas habet, neque posticas. Quidquid enim teres est, atque ex omni parte rotunditatis solidae convexione conclusum, nullum habet initium, nullum finem; ubi finis, et initium nullum est, esse aliqua portio sui nominis, et initium non potest. Itaque cum dicimus, dextera haec regio est, et illa laeva, non ad mundi habitum dicimus qui sui simillimus totus est, sed ad positionem nostram, situmque revocamus, qui informati sic sumus, ut alia dextera, alia nobis dicantur esse laeva; quae tamen haec ipsa quae laeva appellamus, et dextera alia, in nobis nihil habent perpetuum, nihil fixum; sed prout n os casus, atque eventus collocaverit temporis, ita nostris sumunt ab lateribus figurationes. Si orientem solem respexero, cardo mihi frigoris, et septentrio fit laevus: in quem si ora traduxero, erit mihi sinister occasus, qui ab sole posterganeus habebitur. Rursus vero si jecero plagam ad occiduam lumina, in vocabulum sinistri auster, et meridies transit; in quam si me partem necessaria temporis circumegerit ratio, fit ut oriens laevus immutata corporis conversione dicatur, qua ex re poterit facillime recognosci, neque dextera, neque laeva natura esse ulla, sed positionis, temporis, et prout nostri corporis habuerit se situs rerum ad circumstantiam collocatus. Quod cum ita se habeat, quanam ratione, quo pacto sinistrarum partium dii erunt, cum easdem constiterit regiones modo dexteras fieri, modo laevas? Aut quid dexterae meruerunt de immortalibus diis partes, ut sine ullis praesidibus degerent, quas esse faustas, et prosperis semper cum ominibus ediderunt?

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6. Lateranus, as you say, is the god and genius of hearths, and received this name because men build that kind of fireplace of unbaked bricks. What then? if hearths were made of baked clay, or any other material whatever, will they have no genii? and will Lateranus, whoever he is, abandon his duty as guardian, because the kingdom which he possesses has not been formed of bricks of clay? And for what purpose, I ask, has that god received the charge of hearths? He runs about the kitchens of men, examining and discovering with what kinds of wood the heat in their fires is produced; he gives strength to earthen vessels that they may not fly in pieces, overcome by the violence of the flames; he sees that the flavour of unspoilt dainties reaches the taste of the palate with their own pleasantness, and acts the part of a taster, and tries whether the sauces have been rightly prepared. Is not this unseemly, nay—to speak with more truth—disgraceful, impious, to introduce some pretended deities for this only, not to do them reverence with fitting honours, but to appoint them over base things, and disreputable actions?

Lateranus, ut dicitis, deus est focorum et genius, dictusque hoc nomine, quod ex laterculis crudis ab hominibus caminorum istud exaedificetur genus. Quid ergo si testa, aut materia fuerint quacumque alia fabricati foci, genios non habebunt? et ab officio tutelae, quisquis iste est Lateranus, abscedet, quod regni sui possessio non luteis constructa est formis? Et quid, quaeso, ut faciat, praesidatum focorum Deus iste sortitus est? Per humani generis coquinas currit, inspiciens et explorans quibusnam lignorum generibus suis ardor in foculis excitetur: habitudinem fictilibus contribuit vasculis, ne flammarum dissiliant vi victa: curat ut ad sensum palati suis cum jucunditatibus veniant rerum incorruptatum sapores, et an rite pulmenta condita sint, praegustatoris fungitur atque experitur officio. Itane istud non foedum, quinimmo, ut verius dixerim, non contumeliosum, non impium, ad hoc tantum inducere deorum nescio quas fictiones, non quas dignis honoribus prosequare, sed quas rebus turpibus, et infami praeficias actioni?

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7. Does Venus Militaris, also, preside over the evil-doing of camps, and the debaucheries of young men? Is there one Perfica, also, of the crowd of deities, who causes those base and filthy delights to reach their end with uninterrupted pleasure? Is there also Pertunda, who presides over the marriage couch? Is there also Tutunus, on whose huge members and horrent fascinum you think it auspicious, and desire, that your matrons should be borne? But if facts themselves have very little effect in suggesting to you a right understanding of the truth, are you not able, even from the very names, to understand that these are the inventions of a most meaningless superstition, and the false gods of fancy? Puta, you say, presides over the pruning of trees, Peta over prayers; Nemestrinus is the god of groves; Patellana is a deity, and Patella, of whom the one has been set over things brought to light, the other over those yet to be disclosed. Nodutis is spoken of as a god, because he brings that which has been sown to the knots: and she who presides over the treading out of grain, Noduterensis; the goddess Upibilia delivers from straying from the right paths; parents bereaved of their children are under the care of Orbona,—those very near to death, under that of Nænia. Again, Ossilago herself is mentioned as she who gives firmness and solidity to the bones of young children. Mellonia is a goddess, strong and powerful in regard to bees, caring for and guarding the sweetness of their honey.

Etiamne militaris Venus castrensibus plagiis praesidet, et puerorum stupris? Etiamne Perfica una est e populo numinum, quae obscoenas illas et luteas voluptates ad exitum perficit dulcedine inoffensa procedere? Etiamne Pertunda, quae in cubiculis praesto est, virginalem scrobem effodientibus maritis? Etiamne Tutunus, cujus immanibus pudendis, horrentique fascino, vestras inequitare matronas, et auspicabile ducitis, et optatis? Quod si minime vos admonent ad intellectum veritatis res ipsae: nec ex ipsis saltem potestis nominibus noscere inanissimae superstitionis figmenta haec esse, et falsorum imaginationes deorum? Putationibus arborum Puta, inquitis, praesto est, rebus petendis Peta: Deus nemorum Nemestrinus est: Patellana numen est, et Patella, ex quibus una est patefactis, patefaciendis rebus altera praestituta. Nodutis dicitur Deus, quia ad nodos perducit res satas: et quae praeest frugibus ferendis, Terensis: ab erroribus viarum Dea Vibilia liberat: in tutela sunt Orbonae orbati liberis parentes: in Naeniae, quibus extrema sunt tempora. Jam quae durat et solidat infantibus parvis ossa, Ossilago ipsa memoratur. Mellonia Dea est pollens potensque in apibus, mellis curans custodiensque dulcedinem.

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8. Say, I pray you,—that Peta, Puta, Patella may graciously favour you,—if there were no bees at all on the earth then, or if we men were born without bones, like some worms, would there be no goddess Mellonia; or would Ossilago, who gives bones their solidity, be without a name of her own? I ask truly, and eagerly inquire whether you think that gods, or men, or bees, fruits, twigs, and the rest, are the more ancient in nature, time, long duration? No man will doubt that you say that the gods precede all things whatever by countless ages and generations. But if it is so, how, in the nature of things, can it be that, from things produced afterwards, they received those names which are earlier in point of time? or that the gods were charged with the care of those things which were not yet produced, and assigned to be of use to men? Or were the gods long without names; and was it only after things began to spring up, and be on the earth, that you thought it right that they should be called by these names and titles? And whence could you have known what name to give to each, since you were wholly ignorant of their existence; or that they possessed any fixed powers, seeing that you were equally unaware which of them had any power, and over what he should be placed to suit his divine might?

Dicite, o quaeso, ut ita vobis propitiae faveant, Peta, Puta, Patella, si omnino essent apes ullae in terris, aut si exos genus humanum, velut quidam vermiculi nasceremur, Dea Mellonia non esset: aut Ossilago solidatrix ossium nomen proprium non haberet? Etenim, quaero et rogito utrumne vobis videantur antiquiores dii esse natura, tempore, vetustate, an homines, an apes, fruges, virgulta, et caetera? Dubitabit hominum nemo, quin innumeris dicatis deos aetatibus, saeculis, cuncta quaecumque sunt anteire. Quod si habet se ita, qui fieri per rerum naturam potest, ut ex rebus postea procreatis acciperent nomina ea quae sunt priora temporibus? aut tutelas sortirentur earum Dii rerum, quae nondum essent genitae, et in usum mortalibus attributae? An numquid jamdudum sine nominibus Dii erant, et postquam res nasci, terrisque inesse coeperunt, his a vobis dignati sunt signis atque appellationibus nuncupari? Et unde scire potuistis quae nomina singulis inderetis, cum esse illos ignoraretis omnino, aut inesse potentias his certas: cum esset vobis similiter nescium, quisnam eorum quid posset, et cui rei deberet pro sui numinis potestate praeponi?

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9. What then? you say; do you declare that these gods exist nowhere in the world, and have been created by unreal fancies? Not we alone, but truth itself, and reason, say so, and that common-sense in which all men share. For who there who believes that there are gods of gain, and that they preside over the getting of it, seeing that it springs very often from the basest employments, and is always at the expense of others? Who believes that Libentina, who that Burnus, is set over those lusts which wisdom bids us avoid, and which, in a thousand ways, vile and filthy wretches attempt and practise? Who that Limentinus and Lima have the care of thresholds, and do the duties of their keepers, when every day we see the thresholds of temples and private houses destroyed and overthrown, and that the infamous approaches to stews are not without them? Who believes that the Limi watch over obliquities? who that Saturnus presides over the sown crops? who that Montinus is the guardian of mountains; Murcia, of the slothful? Who, finally, would believe that Money is a goddess, whom your writings declare, as though she were the greatest deity, to give golden rings, the front seats at games and shows, honours in the greatest number, the dignity of the magistracy, and that which the indolent love most of all,—an undisturbed ease, by means of riches.

Quid ergo, inquitis, hos deos nusquam esse gentium judicatis, sed falsis opinationibus constitutos? Non istud nos soli, sed veritas ipsa dicit, et ratio: et ille communis, qui est cunctis in mortalibus, sensus. Qui est enim qui credat esse deos Lucrios, et lucrorum consecutionibus praesidere, cum ex turpibus causis frequentissime veniant, et aliorum semper ex dispendiis constent? Quis Libentinam, quis Liburnum libidinum superesse tutelis, quas jubet sapientia fugere, et quas mille per species propudiosa experitur et exercet obscoenitas? Quis Limentinum, quis Limam custodiam liminum gerere, et janitorum officia sustinere: cum fanorum quotidie videamus, et privatarum domorum convelli et subrui: nec sine his esse flagitiosos ad lupanaria commeatus? Quis curatores obliquitatum Limos? quis Saturnum praesidem sativis? quis Montinum montium? quis segnium Murciam? quis ad extremum Deam Pecuniam esse credat, quam velut maximum numen vestrae indicant litterae donare annulos aureos, loca in ludis atque in spectaculis priora, honorum suggestus summos, amplitudinem magistratus, et quod maxime pigri ament, securum per opulentias otium.

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10. But if you urge that bones, different kinds of honey, thresholds, and all the other things which we have either run over rapidly, or, to avoid prolixity, passed by altogether, have their own peculiar guardians, we may in like manner introduce a thousand other gods, who should care for and guard innumerable things. For why should a god have charge of honey only, and not of gourds, rape, cunila, cress, figs, beets, cabbages? Why should the bones alone have found protection, and not the nails, hair, and all the other things which are placed in the hidden parts and members of which we feel ashamed, and are exposed to very many accidents, and stand more in need of the care and attention of the gods? Or if you say that these parts, too, act under the care of their own tutelar deities, there will begin to be as many gods as there are things; nor will the cause be stated why the divine care does not protect all things, if you say that there are certain things over which the deities preside, and for which they care

Quod si habere insistitis suos proprios praesides ossa, mella, et limina, caeteraque alia, quae vel cursim perstrinximus,vel nimietatis non attigimus taedio, licet consimili ratione mille alios Deos inducere, qui rebus innumeris debeant suam curam, custodiamque praebere. Cur enim Deus praesit melli uni tantummodo, non praesit cucurbitis, rapis, non cunilae, nasturtio, non ficis, betaceis, caulibus? Cur sola meruerint ossa tutelam, non meruerint ungues, pili, caeteraque alia locis posita in obscuris, et verecundioribus partibus, et sunt casibus obnoxia plurimis, et curam magis deorum, diligentiamque desiderant? Aut si et has dicitis partes suis agere sub tutelaribus divis, incipient totidem dii esse, quot res sunt: nec explicabitur ratio, cur non rebus omnibus divinae praesideant curae, si certas res esse, quibus praesint numina et provideant, dixeritis.

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11. What say you, O fathers of new religions, and powers? Do you cry out, and complain that these gods are dishonoured by us, and neglected with profane contempt, viz., Lateranus, the genius of hearths; Limentinus, who presides over thresholds; Pertunda, Perfica, Noduterensis: and do you say that things have sunk into ruin, and that the world itself has changed its laws and constitution, because we do not bow humbly in supplication to Mutunus and Tutunus? But now look and see, lest while you imagine such monstrous things, and form such conceptions, you may have offended the gods who most assuredly exist, if only there are any who are worthy to bear and hold that most exalted title; and it be for no other reason that those evils, of which you speak, rage, and increase by accessions every day. Why, then, some one of you will perhaps say, do you maintain that it is not true that these gods exist? And, when invoked by the diviners, do they obey the call, and come when summoned by their own names, and give answers which may be relied on, to those who consult them? We can show that what is said is false, either because in the whole matter there is the greatest room for distrust, or because we, every day, see many of their predictions either prove untrue or wrested with baffled expectation to suit the opposite issues.

Quid dicitis, o patres novarum religionum, quid potestatum? Hoscine a nobis deos violari, et negligi sacrilego clamitatis, quiritaminique contemptu Lateranum Genium focorum, Limentinum praesidem liminum, Pertundam, Perficam, Nodutim Terensem? et quia non supplices Mutuno procumbimus atque Tutuno, ad interitum res lapsas, atque ipsum dicitis mundum leges suas et constituta mutasse? At quin videte, perspicite, ne dum talia confingitis monstra, taliaque molimini, deos offenderitis certissimos, si modo sunt ulli, qui istius nominis mereantur sustinere atque habere fastigium, nec propter aliam causam mala ista, quae dicitis, ferveant, et quotidianis accessionibus inolescant. Cur ergo e vobis fortasse aliquis dixerit, esse falsum istos deos contendis? Et invocati ab haruspicibus parent, et suis acciti nominibus veniunt, et fidelia reddunt responsa quaerentibus? Possumus obtinere falsum esse quod dicitur, vel quod suspicionibus plenissima res tota est: vel quod multas quotidie praedictionum videmus, aut aliter cadere, aut in contrarios exitus frustrata exspectatione torqueri.

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12. But let them be true, as you maintain, yet will you have us also believe that Mellonia, for example, introduces herself into the entrails, or Limentinus, and that they set themselves to make known what you seek to learn? Did you ever see their face, their deportment, their countenance? or can even these be seen in lungs or livers? May it not happen, may it not come to pass, although you craftily conceal it, that the one should take the other’s place, deluding, mocking, deceiving, and presenting the appearance of the deity invoked? If the magi, who are so much akin to soothsayers, relate that, in their incantations, pretended gods steal in frequently instead of those invoked; that some of these, moreover, are spirits of grosser substance, who pretend that they are gods, and delude the ignorant by their lies and deceit,—why should we not similarly believe that here, too, others substitute themselves for those who are not, that they may both strengthen your superstitious beliefs, and rejoice that victims are slain in sacrifice to them under names not their own?

Sed sint, ut asseritis, vera, eamdem tamen facietis fidem Melloniam, verbi causa, vel Limentinum inserere se fibris, et ad rerum, quas quaeritis, significantias aptare? Numquid illorum aliquando vidistis os, habitum, faciem? aut eadem haec possunt in pulmonibus, aut jecusculis conspici? Nonne accidere, fieri, licet astu dissimiletis, potest, ut alter pro altero subeat, fallens, ludens, decipiens, atque invocati speciem praestans? Si magi haruspicum fratres suis in accitionibus memorant antitheos saepius obrepere pro accitis: esse autem hos quosdam materiis ex crassioribus spiritus, qui deos se fingant, nesciosque mendaciis et simulationibus ludant: cur ratione non pari credamus hic quoque subjicere se alios pro eis qui non sunt, ut et vestras opinationes firment, et sibi hostias caedi alienis sub nominibus gaudeant?

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13. Or, if you refuse to believe this on account of its novelty, how can you know whether there is not some one, who comes in place of all whom you invoke, and substituting himself in all parts of the world, shows to you what appear to be many gods and powers? Who is that one? some one will ask. We may perhaps, being instructed by truthful authors, be able to say; but, lest you should be unwilling to believe us, let my opponent ask the Egyptians, Persians, Indians, Chaldeans, Armenians, and all the others who have seen and become acquainted with these things in the more recondite arts. Then, indeed, you will learn who is the one God, or who the very many under Him are, who pretend to be gods, and make sport of men’s ignorance.

Even now we are ashamed to come to the point at which not only boys, young and pert, but grave men also, cannot restrain their laughter, and men who have been hardened into a strict and stern humour. For while we have all heard it inculcated and taught by our teachers, that in declining the names of the gods there was no plural number, because the gods were individuals, and the ownership of each name could not be common to a great many; you in forgetfulness, and putting away the memory of your early lessons, both give to several gods the same names, and, although you are elsewhere more moderate as to their number, have multiplied them, again, by community of names; which subject, indeed, men of keen discernment and acute intellect have before now treated both in Latin and Greek. And that might have lessened our labour, if it were not that at the same time we see that some know nothing of these books; and, also, that the discussion which we have begun, compels us to bring forward something on these subjects, although it has been already laid hold of, and related by those writers.

Aut si sic accipere rei novitate renuitis, unde vobis est scire, an sit unus aliquis, qui succedat pro omnibus quos invocatis, partibusque se cunctis locorum divisionumque supponens, multorum vobis speciem divorum praebeat et potestatum? Quisnam iste est unus? interrogabit. Forte possumus istum veris auctoribus dicere: sed ne nobis fidem habere nolitis, Aegyptios, Persas, Indos, Chaldaeos, Armenios interroget, omnesque illos alios, qui in interioribus viderunt et cognoverunt haec artibus: jam profecto discetis, quisnam sit Deus unus, vel sub eo qui plurimi, qui deos se fingant, et humani generis imprudentiam ludant. Jamdudum nos pudet ad eum locum venire, in quo risum tenere non possunt non tantum puerculi, et procaces, verum etiam serii, atque in moris tetrici asperitatem durati. Nam cum a doctoribus omnes nostris insinuatum acceperimus et traditum, in declinationibus deorum plurativos numeros non esse, quod essent dii singuli, nec communiter ire per plurimos uniuscujusque nominis proprietas quiret ( neque enim fieri per rerum naturam potest, ut quod unum est, fiat duo: et in diversas res eat unitas, ingenita simplicitate divisa ): immemores vos facti, et puerilium disciplinarum recordatione composita, et complures subditis vocabulis iisdem deos, et cum sitis alias in eorum numero restrictiores, multiplices eos rursus cognominum societate fecistis: quam quidem olim partem judicii acris viri, atque ingenio perspicaci, tam sermone italo explicuere, quam graeco. Et dare nobis compendium potuisset resista, si non et aliquos videremus litterarum esse istarum expertes: et institutus a nobis sermo nos quoque compelleret nonnihil de his rebus, quamvis ab illis sumptum, commemoratumque, depromere.

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14. Your theologians, then, and authors on unknown antiquity, say that in the universe there are three Joves, one of whom has Æther for his father; another, Cœlus; the third, Saturn, born and buried in the island of Crete. They speak of five Suns and five Mercuries,—of whom, as they relate, the first Sun is called the son of Jupiter, and is regarded as grandson of Æther; the second is also Jupiter’s son, and the mother who bore him Hyperiona; the third the son of Vulcan, not Vulcan of Lemnos, but the son of the Nile; the fourth, whom Acantho bore at Rhodes in the heroic age, was the father of Ialysus; while the fifth is regarded as the son of a Scythian king and subtle Circe. Again, the first Mercury, who is said to have lusted after Proserpina, is son of Cœlus, who is above all. Under the earth is the second, who boasts that he is Trophonius. The third was born of Maia, his mother, and the third Jove; the fourth is the offspring of the Nile, whose name the people of Egypt dread and fear to utter. The fifth is the slayer of Argus, a fugitive and exile, and the inventor of letters in Egypt. But there are five Minervas also, they say, just as there are five Suns and Mercuries; the first of whom is no virgin but the mother of Apollo by Vulcan; the second, the offspring of the Nile, who is asserted to be the Egyptian Sais; the third is descended from Saturn, and is the one who devised the use of arms; the fourth is sprung from Jove, and the Messenians name her Coryphasia; and the fifth is she who slew her lustful father, Pallas.

Aiunt igitur theologi vestri, et vetustatis absconditae conditores, tres in rerum natura Joves esse: ex quibus unus Aethere sit patre progenitus, alter Coelo, tertius vero Saturno, apud insulam Cretam et sepulturae traditus et procreatus. Quinque Soles, et Mercurios quinque: ex quibus, ut referunt, Sol primus Jovis filius dicitur, et Aetheris habetur nepos; secundus aeque Jovis filius, et Hyperiona proditus genetrice; tertius Vulcano, non Lemnio, sed Nili qui fuerit filius, quartus Jalysi pater, quem Rhodi peperit heroicis temporibus Acantho; quintus Scythici regis et versipellis habetur Circae. Jam Mercurius primus, qui in Proserpinam dicitur genitalibus adhinnivisse subrectis, supremi progenies Coeli est. Sub terra est alter, Trophonius qui esse jactatur. Maia tertius matre, et Jove procreatus sed tertio; quartus soboles Nili est, cujus nomen Aegyptia gens horret et reveretur expromere. Quintus Argi est interemptor, fugitivus, atque exul, et proditor apud Aegyptum litterarum. Sed et Minervae, inquiunt, sicut Soles et Mercurii, quinque sunt; ex quibus prima non virgo, sed ex Vulcano Apollinis procreatrix; Nili altera proles, et quae esse perhibetur Aegyptia Sais. Stirps Saturni tertia est, et quae usum excogitavit armorum; Jovis quarta progenies, quam Messenii Coryphasiam nuncupant; et quae Pallantem occidit patrem incestorum appetitorem, est quinta.

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15. And lest it should seem tedious and prolix to wish to consider each person singly, the same theologians say that there are four Vulcans and three Dianas, as many Æsculapii and five Dionysi, six Hercules and four Venuses, three sets of Castors and the same number of Muses, three winged Cupids, and four named Apollo; whose fathers they mention in like manner, in like manner their mothers, and the places where they were born, and point out the origin and family of each. But if it is true and certain, and is told in earnest as a well-known matter, either they are not all gods, inasmuch as there cannot be several under the same name, as we have been taught; or if there is one of them, he will not be known and recognised, because he is obscured by the confusion of very similar names. And thus it results from your own action, however unwilling you may be that it should be so, that religion is brought into difficulty and confusion, and has no fixed end to which it can turn itself, without being made the sport of equivocal illusions.

Ac ne longum videatur, et nimium, minutatim velle capita ire per singula, aiunt iidem Theologi quatuor esse Vulcanos, et tres Dianas, Aesculapios totidem, et Dionysios quinque, ter binos Hercules, et quatuor Veneres, tria genera Castorum, totidemque Musarum, pinnatorum Cupidinum trigas, et quadrigas Apollinarium nominum; quorum similiter genitores, similiter matres, loca quibus nati sunt, indicant, et originem singulorum suis cum prosapiis monstrant. Quod si verum et certum est, et ex rei cognitae asseveratione monstratur; aut omnes dii non sunt, quoniam plures sub eodem nomine quemadmodum accepimus, esse non possunt; aut si aliquis ex his est, ignorabitur et nescietur; quia sit consimilium nominum confusione caecatus. Atque ita per vos ipsos, quamvis fieri nolitis, efficitur, ut haesitet religio conturbata; neque habeat finem certum, in quem dirigere se possit, nullis elusa ambiguitatis erroribus.

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16. For suppose that it had occurred to us, moved either by suitable influence or violent fear of you, to worship Minerva, for example, with the rights you deem sacred, and the usual ceremony: if, when we prepare sacrifices, and approach to make the offerings appointed for her on the flaming altars, all the Minervas shall fly thither, and striving for the right to that name, each demand that the offerings prepared be given to herself; what drawn-out animal shall we place among them, or to whom shall we direct the sacred offices which are our duty? For the first one of whom we spoke will perhaps say: “The name Minerva is mine, mine the divine majesty, who bore Apollo and Diana, and by the fruit of my womb enriched heaven with deities, and multiplied the number of the gods.” “Nay, Minerva,” the fifth will say, “are you speaking, who, being a wife, and so often a mother, have lost the sanctity of spotless purity? Do you not see that in all temples the images of Minervas are those of virgins, and that all artists refrain from giving to them the figures of matrons? Cease, therefore, to appropriate to yourself a name not rightfully yours. For that I am Minerva, begotten of father Pallas, the whole band of poets bear witness, who call me Pallas, the surname being derived from my father.” The second will cry on hearing this: “What say you? Do you, then, bear the name of Minerva, an impudent parricide, and one defiled by the pollution of lewd lust, who, decking yourself with rouge and a harlot’s arts, roused upon yourself even your father’s passions, full of maddening desires? Go further, then, seek for yourself another name; for this belongs to me, whom the Nile, greatest of rivers, begot from among his flowing waters, and brought to a maiden’s estate from the condensing of moisture. But if you inquire into the credibility of the matter, I too will bring as witnesses the Egyptians, in whose language I am called Neith, as Plato’s Timæus attests.” What, then, do we suppose will be the result? Will she indeed cease to say that she is Minerva, who is named Coryphasia, either to mark her mother, or because she sprung forth from the top of Jove’s head, bearing a shield, and girt with the terror of arms? Or are we to suppose that she who is third will quietly surrender the name? and not argue and resist the assumption of the first two with such words as these: “Do you thus dare to assume the honour of my name, O Sais, sprung from the mud and eddies of a stream, and formed in miry places? Or do you usurp another’s rank, who falsely say that you were born a goddess from the head of Jupiter, and persuade very silly men that you are reason? Does he conceive and bring forth children from his head? That the arms you bear might be forged and formed, was there even in the hollow of his head a smith’s workshop? were there anvils, hammers, furnaces, bellows, coals, and pincers? Or if, as you maintain, it is true that you are reason, cease to claim for yourself the name which is mine; for reason, of which you speak, is not a certain form of deity, but the understanding of difficult questions.” If, then, as we have said, five Minervas should meet us when we essay to sacrifice, and contending as to whose this name is, each demand that either fumigations of incense be offered to her, or sacrificial wines poured out from golden cups; by what arbiter, by what judge, shall we dispose of so great a dispute? or what examiner will there be, what umpire of so great boldness as to attempt, with such personages, either to give a just decision, or to declare their causes not founded on right? Will he not rather go home, and, keeping himself apart from such matters, think it safer to have nothing to do with them, lest he should either make enemies of the rest, by giving to one what belongs to all, or be charged with folly for yielding to all what should be the property of one?

Fingite nos enim vel auctoritate idonea motos, vel violentia terroris vestri, induxisse in animum Minervam, verbi causa, sacris vobis solemnibus et ritu velle adorare vulgato; res si cum divinas apparamus, aggredimurque aris flammantibus sua reddere constituta, Minervae omnes advolent, ac de istius nominis possessione certantes poscant sibi singulae apparatum illum sacrorum reddi; quid in medio faciemus nos animal tenue, vel in partes quas potius pii muneris officia transferemus? Dicet enim forsitan prima illa, quam diximus, meum nomen est Minervae, cum numine, quae Apollinem genui, quae Dianam, et ex mei uteri foetu coelum numinibus auxi, et deorum numerum multiplicavi. Immo, inquiet quinta Minerva, tu tinnis, quae marita, et puerpera toties castitatis purae imminuta es sanctitate? Nonne vides in Capitoliis omnibus virginaleis esse species Minervarum, nec nuptarum his formas ab artificibus cunctis dari? Desiste igitur nomen juris tibi asciscere non tui. Nam Minervam me esse genitore ex Pallante procreatam, testis omnis est poetarum chorus, qui Palladam me nuncupat, derivato a patre cognomine. Quid dicis, inquiet secunda haec audiens: Ergone Minervium nomen tu fers parricida petulans, et ex amoris incesti contaminatione polluta? quae dum te fucis, atque artibus excolis meretriciis, jam patris in te mentem furialibus plenam cupiditatibus excitasti. Perge igitur, aliud tibi quaere signum: nam mea res ista est, quam Nilus maximus fluminum aquis generavit ex liquidis, et in virgineos habitus roris concretione conduxit. Quod si fidem inquiris facti, Aegyptios et ego testes dabo, quorum Neith lingua dicor, Platonis testificante Timaeo. Quid deinde arbitramur fore? desistetne et illa Minervam se dicere, cui Corifasiae nomen est, vel ex Corifae matris signo, vel quod ex vertice summo Jovis parmam ferens emicuit, atque armorum accincta terroribus? Aut illam, quae tertia est, cessuram patienter nomen, et non dictis talibus habituram rationem sui, et primarum arrogantiam refutaturam? Itane tu audes majestatem tibi mei nominis usurpare Sai, ex coeno et ex gurgitibus prodita, coagulataque limosis? at tibi tu aliam dignitatem assume, deam quae de vertice procreatam mentiris te Jovis, et rationem te esse mortalibus ineptissimis suades? Ex capite conceptos filios procreat? ut arma quae gestas, procudi possent et fabricari, in verticis ipsius cavo officina fabrilis fuit, incudes, mallei, fornaces, folles, carbones et forcipes? aut si verum est quod asseveras, rationem te esse, desiste tibi nomen id, quod meum est, vindicare, nam quam dicis ratio, non est species numinis certa, sed obscurarum intelligentia causarum. Si ergo, ut diximus, officia nobis adeuntibus religiosa Minervae adsint quinque, ac de hujus nominis proprietate rixantes, sibi quaeque desideret aut thuris suffimenta libari, aut ex pateris aureis inferia vina defundi, quo disceptatore, quo judice controversias tollemus tantas? aut quis quaesitor, quis arbiter cervicibus tantis erit, qui inter personas hujusmodi, aut vindicias justas dare, aut sacramenta conetur pronuntiare non justa? Nonne potius ibit domum, seseque abstinens ab negotiis talibus tutius esse arbitrabitur nihil horum contingere, ne aut uni dando, quod omnium est, inimicas efficiat caeteras, aut stultitiae crimen incurrat, si id attribuat cunctis, quod esse oportebat unius?

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17. We may say the very same things of the Mercuries, the Suns,—indeed of all the others whose numbers you increase and multiply. But it is sufficient to know from one case that the same principle applies to the rest; and, lest our prolixity should chance to weary our audience, we shall cease to deal with individuals, lest, while we accuse you of excess, we also should ourselves be exposed to the charge of excessive loquacity. What do you say, you who, by the fear of bodily tortures, urge us to worship the gods, and constrain us to undertake the service of your deities? We can be easily won, if only something befitting the conception of so great a race be shown to us. Show us Mercury, but only one; give us Bacchus, but only one; one Venus, and in like manner one Diana. For you will never make us believe that there are four Apollos, or three Jupiters, not even if you were to call Jove himself as witness, or make the Pythian god your authority.

Possumus haec eadem de Mercuriis, Solibus, immo de aliis omnibus quorum numeros tenditis et multiplicatis, expromere. Sed satis est ex uno rationem in caeteris eamdem esse scire: et ne forte prolixitas fastidium audientiae pariat, cessabimus ire per singula, ne dum vos arguimus nimietatis, loquacitatis immodicae suscipiamus et nos culpam. Quid dicitis o isti, qui ad deorum nos cultus membrorum laniatibus invitatis, et suscipere nos cultum vestrorum compellitis numinum? Possumus difficiles non esse, si modo aliquid nobis dignum tanti nominis opinione monstretur. Ostendite nobis Mercurium, sed unum: date Liberum, sed unum: unam Venerem, atque unam similiter Dianam. Nam esse Apollines quatuor, aut tres Joves, numquam nobis facietis fidem: nec si testem ipsum citetis Jovem, aut Pythium constituatis auctorem.

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18. But some one on the opposite side says, How do we know whether the theologians have written what is certain and well known, or set forth a wanton fiction, as they thought and judged? That has nothing to do with the matter; nor does the reasonableness of your argument depend upon this,—whether the facts are as the writings of the theologians state, or are otherwise and markedly different. For to us it is enough to speak of things which come before the public; and we need not inquire what is true, but only confute and disprove that which lies open to all, and which men’s thoughts have generally received. But if they are liars, declare yourselves what is the truth, and disclose the unassailable mystery. And how can it be done when the services of men of letters are set aside? For what is there which can be said about the immortal gods that has not reached men’s thoughts from what has been written by men on these subjects? Or can you relate anything yourselves about their rights and ceremonies, which has not been recorded in books, and made known by what authors have written? Or if you think these of no importance, let all the books be destroyed which have been composed about the gods for you by theologians, pontiffs, and even some devoted to the study of philosophy; nay, let us rather suppose that from the foundation of the world no man ever wrote anything about the gods: we wish to find out, and desire to know, whether you can mutter or murmur in mentioning the gods, or conceive those in thought to whom no idea from any book gave shape in your minds. But when it is clear that you have been informed of their names and powers by the suggestions of books, it is unjust to deny the reliableness of these books by whose testimony and authority you establish what you say.

Sed ex diverso, nescio quis, unde, inquit, scimus, an explorata et cognita theologi scriptitarint, an, ut visum est, atque sedit, libidinosam extulerint fictionem? Nihil istud ad causam: nec sermonis istius in eo est ratio constituta, utrumne res ita sint, theologorum ut indicant scripta, an aliter se habeant, et multo dissociatae discrimine: nobis enim satis est rebus de publicatis loqui, neque quaerere quid sit in vero, sed refutare, convincere id, quod in medio positum est, atque opinatio concepit humana. Sed si mendaces illi, vos, veritas quae sit, exponite et irrefutabile aperite secretum. Et qui fieri potis est, remotis magisteriis litterarum? Quid est enim quod dici de immortalibus diis possit, quod non ex hominum de his scriptis ad humanas pervenerit notiones? Aut quidquam vos ipsi de illorum ritibus potestis, caerimoniisque narrare, quod relatum in litteras non sit, et scriptorum commentariis publicatum? aut si ponderis existimatis nullius haec esse, aboleantur omnes libri, quos de diis habetis compositos theologorum, pontificum, nonnullorum etiam philosophiae deditorum: quinimmo potius fingamus ab exordio mundi nullum aliquando mortalium scripsisse de diis quidquam: experiri volumus, et cupimus scire, an mutire, an hiscere deorum in mentione possitis, an concipere eos mente, quos in animis vestris nullius scripti informaverit notio. Cum vero nomina, et potentias illorum suggerentibus vobis libris addidicisse vos constet, iniquum est detrahere litteris his fidem, quarum ea quae dicitis testimonio atque auctoritate firmatis.

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19. But perhaps these things will turn out to be false, and what you say to be true. By what proof, by what evidence, will it be shown? For since both parties are men, both those who have said the one thing and those who have said the other, and on both sides the discussion was of doubtful matters, it is arrogant to say that that is true which seems so to you, but that that which offends your feelings manifests wantonness and falsehood. By the laws of the human race, and the associations of mortality itself, when you read and hear, That god was born of this father and of that mother, do you not feel in your mind that something is said which belongs to man, and relates to the meanness of our earthly race? Or, while you think that it is so, do you conceive no anxiety lest you should in something offend the gods themselves, whoever they are, because you believe that it is owing to filthy intercourse… that they have reached the light they knew not of, thanks to lewdness? For we, lest any one should chance to think that we are ignorant of, do not know, what befits the majesty of that name, assuredly think that the gods should not know birth; or if they are born at all, we hold and esteem that the Lord and Prince of the universe, by ways which He knew Himself, sent them forth spotless, most pure, undefiled, ignorant of sexual pollution, and brought to the full perfection of their natures as soon as they were begotten?

Nisi forte haec falsa, et ea, quae a vobis dicuntur, erunt vera. Quo argumento, quo signo? Cum enim homines utrique, et qui haec, et illa commentati sunt, fuerint, et de rebus incertis ab utraque sit disputatum parte: arrogantis est dicere, id quod tibi placeat esse verum, quod vero animum laedit, id libidinis et falsitatis arguere. Per humani generis jura, atque ipsius mortalitatis consortia, cum auditis et legitis: Ex illo, atque ex illa matre Deus ille est proditus: nonne animi vestri sensus tangit humanum nescio quid dici, et ex terreni generis humilitate proficiscens? aut cum esse arbitramini vos ita, sollicitudinem concipitis nullam, ne offensionis aliquid apud ipsos, quicumque sunt, contrahatis deos: quod ex turpi concubitu creditis, atque ex seminis jactu ignoratam sibi ad lucem beneficiis obscoenitatis exisse? Nos enim, ne quis forte existimet ignorare, nescire, quid istius nominis conveniat dignitati, sane nativitatis expertes deos esse oportere censemus: aut si aliquos ortus habent, a Domino rerum ac principe, rationibus quas ipse novit, ipsos ducimus atque existimamus esse missos, immaculatos, castissimos, puros, nescientes quae sit foeditas ista coeundi, et usque ad illos ipsos principali procreatione finita.

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20. But you, on the contrary, forgetting how great their dignity and grandeur are, associate with them a birth, and impute to them a descent, which men of at all refined feelings regard as at once execrable and terrible. From Ops, you say, his mother, and from his father Saturn, Diespiter was born with his brothers. Do the gods, then, have wives; and, the matches having been previously planned, do they become subject to the bonds of marriage? Do they take upon themselves the engagements of the bridal couch by prescription, by the cake of spelt, and by a pretended sale? Have they their mistresses, their promised wives, their betrothed brides, on settled conditions? And what do we say about their marriages, too, when indeed you say that some celebrated their nuptials, and entertained joyous throngs, and that the goddesses sported at these; and that some threw all things into utter confusion with dissensions because they had no share in singing the Fescennine verses, and occasioned danger and destruction to the next generation of men?

At vero vos contra, majestatis immemores et sublimitatis tantae, eas illis adjungitis nativitates, ortusque eos adscribitis, quos ingeniis lautioribus homines et execrationi habeant et horrori. Ex Ope, inquitis, matre, et ex genitore Saturno, cum suis est natus Diespiter fratribus. Uxores enim dii habent, atque in conjugalia foedera conditionibus veniunt ante quaesitis? usu, farre, coemptione, genialis lectuli sacramenta condicunt? habent speratas, habent pactas, habent interpositis stipulationibus sponsas? Et quid de ipsis conjunctionibus loquimur? quando et quosdam nuptias celebrasse, et festas habuisse frequentias dicitis, et lusisse in his deas: et quod participes fescenninorum non essent, perturbasse discordiis omnia; et in humanum in posterum genus exitiorum sevisse discrimina?

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21. But perhaps this foul pollution may be less apparent in the rest. Did, then, the ruler of the heavens, the father of gods and men, who, by the motion of his eyebrow, and by his nod, shakes the whole heavens and makes them tremble,—did he find his origin in man and woman? And unless both sexes abandoned themselves to degrading pleasures in sensual embraces, would there be no Jupiter, greatest of all; and even to this time would the divinities have no king, and heaven stand without its lord? And why do we marvel that you say Jove sprang from a woman’s womb, seeing that your authors relate that he both had a nurse, and in the next place maintained the life given to him by nourishment drawn from a foreign breast? What say you, O men? Did, then, shall I repeat, the god who makes the thunder crash, lightens and hurls the thunderbolt, and draws together terrible clouds, drink in the streams of the breast, wail as an infant, creep about, and, that he might be persuaded to cease his crying most foolishly protracted, was he made silent by the noise of rattles, and put to sleep lying in a very soft cradle, and lulled with broken words? O devout assertion of the existence of gods, pointing out and declaring the venerable majesty of their awful grandeur! Is it thus in your opinion, I ask, that the exalted powers of heaven are produced? do your gods come forth to the light by modes of birth such as these, by which asses, pigs, dogs, by which the whole of this unclean herd of earthly beasts is conceived and begotten?

Sed in caeteris forsitan minus hujus eluceat turpitudinis foeditas. Ergone ille rector poli, pater deorum et hominum, supercilio et nutu totum motans et tremefaciens coelum, ex viro concretus et foemina est? Et nisi ambo sexus in obscoenas dissolverentur copulatis corporibus voluptates, Jupiter ille maximus non esset, et usque ad hos dies, et regem numina non haberent, et coelum sine domino staret? Et quid Jovem miramur ex foeminae effusum dictitare vos alvo, quando auctores vestri et nutricem habuisse conscribunt, et ex alieni uberis alimonia mox traditam retinuisse vitam? Quid dicitis, o viri? Ergone, iterum dicam, tonans, fulgens, et fulminans, et nubila terribilia conducens, suxit fluenta mammarum, vagitum edidit, repsit, atque, ut fletum exponeret ineptissime tractum, crepitaculis obticuit auditis, et ad somnos inductus est in mollissimis cunis jacens, et vocibus delinitus infractis? O deorum assertio religiosa! o amplitudinis metuendae venerabilem monstrans atque insinuans dignitatem! siccine apud vos, quaeso, supernarum nascitur eminentia potestatum? his in lucem prodeunt generationibus dii vestri, quibus asini, porci, canes, quibus immunda haec omnis conceptatur et genitur terrenarum proluvies bestiarum?

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22. And, not content to have ascribed these carnal unions to the venerable Saturn, you affirm that the king of the world himself begot children even more shamefully than he was himself born and begotten. Of Hyperiona, as his mother, you say, and Jupiter, who wields the thunderbolt, was born the golden and blazing Sun; of Latona and the same, the Delian archer, and Diana, who rouses the woods; of Leda and the same, those named in Greek Dioscori; of Alcmena and the same, the Theban Hercules, whom his club and hide defended; of him and Semele, Liber, who is named Bromius, and was born a second time from his father’s thigh; of him, again, and Maia, Mercury, eloquent in speech, and bearer of the harmless snakes. Can any greater insult be put upon your Jupiter, or is there anything else which will destroy and ruin the reputation of the chief of the gods, further than that you believe him to have been at times overcome by vicious pleasures, and to have glowed with the passion of a heart roused to lust after women? And what had the Saturnian king to do with strange nuptials? Did Juno not suffice him; and could he not stay the force of his desires on the queen of the deities, although so great excellence graced her, such beauty, majesty of countenance, and snowy and marble whiteness of arms? Or did he, not content with one wife, taking pleasure in concubines, mistresses, and courtezans, a lustful god, show his incontinence in all directions, as is the custom with dissolute youths; and in old age, after intercourse with numberless persons, did he renew his eagerness for pleasures now losing their zest? What say you, profane ones; or what vile thoughts do you fashion about your Jove? Do you not, then, observe, do you not see with what disgrace you brand him? of what wrong-doing you make him the author? or what stains of vice, how great infamy you heap upon him?

Nec contenti hos coetus gravitati attribuisse Saturniae, etiam ipsum regem mundi flagitiosius liberos procreasse, quam ipse est natus atque editus, praedicatis. Ex Hyperiona, inquitis, matre et Jove Jaculatore fulminis, Sol aureus et flagrantissimus natus est; ex Latona et eodem Arquitenens Delius, et Sylvarum agitatrix Diana; et Leda et eodem Castores, graece Dioscoris nomen est; ex Alemena et eodem Hercules ille Thebanus, quem clava pellisque tutatae sunt; ex Semela, atque ipso, Liber, qui Bromius dicitur, et ex femine iterum natus patris; ex ipso rursus, et Maia, Mercurius ore facundus, et gestator affabilium colubrarum. Potest ulla gravior contumelia Jovi vestro infligi, aut quidquam est aliud, quod labefactet, aut destruat deorum principis auctoritatem, quam quod eum creditis voluptatibus aliquando libidinosis victum, et in foemineos appetitus inflammati pectoris incaluisse fervore? Et quid regi Saturnio matrimoniis fuerat cum alienis rei? Non illi fuerat satis Juno, nec sedare impetum cupiditatum in regina poterat numinum, cum nobilitas eam commendaret tanta, facies, oris dignitas, et ulnarum nivei marmoreique candores? An uxore contentus haud una, concubinis, pellicibus, atque amiculis delectatus impatientiam suam spargebat passim, ut babecali adolescentes solent, salax Deus, et canus ex infinitis corporibus flaccescentium voluptatum restituebat ardorem? Quid dicitis, o impii, vel quas de vestro Jove opinionum confingitis foeditates? Ita non animadvertitis, non videtis, cujus eum notetis probri, cujus criminis constituatis auctorem, vel quas in eum labes flagitiorum, quantas coacervetis infamias?

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23. Men, though prone to lust, and inclined, through weakness of character, to yield to the allurements of sensual pleasures, still punish adultery by the laws, and visit with the penalty of death those whom they find to have possessed themselves of others rights by forcing the marriage-bed. The greatest of kings, however, you tell us, did not know how vile, how infamous the person of the seducer and adulterer was; and he who, as is said, examines our merits and demerits, did not, owing to the reasonings of his abandoned heart, see what was the fitting course for him to resolve on. But this misconduct might perhaps be endured, if you were to conjoin him with persons at least his equals, and if he were made by you the paramour of the immortal goddesses. But what beauty, what grace was there, I ask you, in human bodies, which could move, which could turn to it the eyes of Jupiter? Skin, entrails, phlegm, and all that filthy mass placed under the coverings of the intestines, which not Lynceus only with his searching gaze can shudder at, but any other also can be made to turn from even by merely thinking. O wonderful reward of guilt, O fitting and precious joy, for which Jupiter, the greatest, should become a swan, and a bull, and beget white eggs!

Ad libidinem homines proni, atque ad voluptatum blanditias naturae infirmitate proclives, adulteria tamen legibus vindicant, et capitalibus afficiunt eos poenis, quos in aliena comprehenderint foedera genialis se lectuli expugnatione jecisse. Subsessoris et adulteri persona cujus esset turpitudinis, notae cujus, regum maximus nesciebat, et speculator ille, ut fama est, bene meritorum, ac pessime, quidnam deceret se velle rationibus pectoris non perspiciebat amissis. Et tolerari forsitan male tractatio haec posset, si eum saltem personis conjungeretis comparibus, et adulter a vobis immortalium constitueretur dearum. In humanis vero corporibus quidnam, quaeso, inerat pulchritudinis, quid decoris, quod irritare, quod flectere oculos posset in se Jovis? Cutes, viscera, pituita, atque omnis illa proluvies intestinorum sub involucris constituta, quam non modo Lynceus ille penetrabili acie possit horrescere, verum etiam quivis alter sola vel cogitatione vitare. O egregia merces culpae, o digna et pretiosa dulcedo, propter quam Jupiter maximus cygnus fieret, et taurus, et candidorum procreator ovorum.

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24. If you will open your minds’ eyes, and see the real truth without gratifying any private end, you will find that the causes of all the miseries by which, as you say, the human race has long been afflicted, flow from such beliefs which you held in former times about your gods; and which you have refused to amend, although the truth was placed before your eyes. For what about them, pray, have we indeed ever either imagined which was unbecoming, or put forth in shameful writings that the troubles which assail men and the loss of the blessings of life should be used to excite a prejudice against us? Do we say that certain gods were produced from eggs, like storks and pigeons? Do we say that the radiant Cytherean Venus grew up, having taken form from the sea’s foam and the severed genitals of Cœlus? that Saturn was thrown into chains for parricide, and relieved from their weight only on his own days? that Jupiter was saved from death by the services of the Curetes? that he drove his father from the seat of power, and by force and fraud possessed a sovereignty not his own? Do we say that his aged sire, when driven out, concealed himself in the territories of the Itali, and gave his name as a gift to Latium, because he had been there protected from his son? Do we say that Jupiter himself incestuously married his sister? or, instead of pork, breakfasted in ignorance upon the son of Lycaon, when invited to his table? that Vulcan, limping on one foot, wrought as a smith in the island of Lemnos? that Æsculapius was transfixed by a thunderbolt because of his greed and avarice, as the Bœotian Pindar sings? that Apollo, having become rich, by his ambiguous responses, deceived the very kings by whose treasures and gifts he had been enriched? Did we declare that Mercury was a thief? that Laverna is so also, and along with him presides over secret frauds? Is the writer Myrtilus one of us, who declares that the Muses were the handmaids of Megalcon, daughter of Macarus?

Si aperire oculos mentis, et veritatem propriam intueri sine ulla vultis gratificatione privata, miseriarum omnium causas, quibus genus, ut dicitis, jamdudum afflictatur humanum, ex hujusmodi reperietis opinationibus fluere, quas habebatis antiquitus de diis vestris; et quas in melius reformare ante oculos posita veritate renuistis. Nam nos quidem quidnam de illis aliquando, aut inconveniens sensimus, aut conscriptionibus edidimus indecoris, ut in invidiam jaciantur nostram labores generis humani, et commoditates, quibus vivitur, imminutae? Numquid a nobis dicitur, ut ciconias, ut palumbes, ex ovis esse progenitos quosdam deos? Numquid ex pelagi spuma, et ex coeli genitalibus amputatis Cithereae Veneris concretum coaluisse candorem? Numquid parricidii causa vinctum esse Saturnum, et suis diebus tantum vinculorum ponderibus relevari? Numquid beneficio Curetum ab interitu servatum Jovem? Numquid expulisse regno patrem, et alieni juris imperium violentia et fraude tenuisse? Numquid pulsum a nobis senem Italorum delituisse in finibus, et quod tutus fuisset a filio, nomen Latio imposuisse pro munere? Numquid incestas nuptias cum sorore Jovem ipsum dicimus fecisse nos? aut invitatum ad jus mensae pro suillis visceribus prolem nescium Lycaoniam pransitasse? Numquid altero claudum pede apud insulam Lemnum fabrilia opera exercuisse Vulcanum? Numquid cupidinis atque avaritiae causa, sicut canit Booetius Pindarus, Aesculapium fulminis transfixum esse telo? Numquid Apollinem ditem factum, eos ipsos reges, quorum gazis fuerat locupletatus et donis ambiguitate fefellisse responsi? Numquid furem Mercurium publicavimus? Num nos esse Lavernam, atque cum hoc simul fraudibus praesidere furtivis? Numquid ex nobis Myrtilus est auctor, qui Macari filiae Megalconis ancillulas, profitetur fuisse Musas?

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25. Did we say that Venus was a courtezan, deified by a Cyprian king named Cinyras? Who reported that the palladium was formed from the remains of Pelops? Was it not you? Who that Mars was Spartanus? was it not your writer Epicharmus? Who that he was born within the confines of Thrace? was it not Sophocles the Athenian, with the assent of all his spectators? Who that he was born in Arcadia? was it not you? Who that he was kept a prisoner for thirteen months? was it not the son of the river Meles? Who said that dogs were sacrificed to him by the Carians, asses by the Scythians? was it not Apollodorus especially, along with the rest? Who that in wronging another’s marriage couch, he was caught entangled in snares? was it not your writings, your tragedies? Did we ever write that the gods for hire endured slavery, as Hercules at Sardis for lust and wantonness; as the Delian Apollo, who served Admetus, as Jove’s brother, who served the Trojan Laomedon, whom the Pythian alsoserved, but with his uncle; as Minerva, who gives light, and trims the lamps to secret lovers? Is not he one of your poets, who represented Mars and Venus as wounded by men’s hands? Is not Panyassis one of you, who relates that father Dis and queenly Juno were wounded by Hercules? Do not the writings of your Polemo say that Pallas was slain, covered with her own blood, overwhelmed by Ornytus? Does not Sosibius declare that Hercules himself was afflicted by the wound and pain he suffered at the hands of Hipocoon’s children? Is it related at our instance that Jupiter was committed to the grave in the island of Crete? Do we say that the brothers, who were united in their cradle, were buried in the territories of Sparta and Lacedæmon? Is the author of our number, who is termed Patrocles the Thurian in the titles of his writings, who relates that the tomb and remains of Saturn are found in Sicily? Is Plutarch of Chæronea esteemed one of us, who said that Hercules was reduced to ashes on the top of Mount Œta, after his loss of strength through epilepsy?

Quis rege a Cyprio, cujus nomen Cinyras est, ditatam meretriculam Venerem divorum in numero consecratam; quis ex reliquiis Pelopis compactum esse palladium, prodidit? non vos? Quis Spartanum fuisse Martem? nonne Epicharmus auctor vester? quis in Thraciae finibus procreatum? non Sophocles Atticus cunctis consentientibus theatris? Quis in Arcadia? Non vos? Quis mensibus tribus et decem vinctum? Non Melae fluminis filius? Quis ei non principaliter cum caeteris Apollodorus? Quis dum canes ab Caribus, quis ab Scythis asinos immolari? genialibus insultat alienis, haesisse in laqueis involutum? non commentarii vestri, non scenae? Numquid aliquando a nobis conscriptum est mercenariam Deos servitutem servisse, ut Herculem sordidi amoris et petulantiae causa, ut Admeto Apollinem Delium, ut Laomedonti Troico Jovis fratrem, ut eidem, sed cum patruo Pythium, ut conjugalia secreta miscentibus Minervam luminis ministram, et lucernarum moderatricem? Nonne ille vester est vates, qui Martem fecit et Venerem mortalium manibus vulneratos? Non ex vobis Panyassis unus est, qui ab Hercule Ditem patrem, et reginam memorat sauciatam esse Junonem? Non viraginem ab Ornyto caesam, cruentatam, vexatam, Polemonis vestri indicant scripta? Non ab Hippocoontis liberis ipsum Sosibius Herculem cruciatum retulisse pronuntiat, et illati vulneris, et doloris? Apud insulam Cretam sepulturae esse mandatum Jovem nobis editum traditur? In Spartanis et Lacedaemoniis finibus nos dicimus conditos, in cunis coalitos fratres? Noster ille est auctor, qui Patrocles Thurius scriptorum in titulis indicatur, qui tumulos memorat, reliquiasque Saturnias tellure in Sicula contineri? Chaeroneus Plutarchus nostrarum esse partium comprobatur, qui in Oeteis verticibus Herculem, post morborum comitialium ruinas dissolutum in cinerem prodidit?

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26. But what shall I say of the desires with which it is written in your books, and contained in your writers, that the holy immortals lusted after women? For is it by us that the king of the sea is asserted in the heat of maddened passion to have robbed of their virgin purity Amphitrite, Hippothoe, Amymone, Menalippe, Alope? that the spotless Apollo, Latona’s son, most chaste and pure, with the passions of a breast not governed by reason, desired Arsinoe, Æthusa, Hypsipyle, Marpessa, Zeuxippe, and Prothoe, Daphne, and Sterope? Is it shown in our poems that the aged Saturn, already long covered with grey hair, and now cooled by weight of years, being taken by his wife in adultery, put on the form of one of the lower animals, and neighing loudly, escaped in the shape of a beast? Do you not accuse Jupiter himself of having assumed countless forms, and concealed by mean deceptions the ardour of his wanton lust? Have we ever written that he obtained his desires by deceit, at one time changing into gold, at another into a sportive satyr; into a serpent, a bird, a bull; and, to pass beyond all limits of disgrace, into a little ant, that he might, forsooth, make Clitor’s daughter the mother of Myrmidon, in Thessaly? Who represented him as having watched over Alcmena for nine nights without ceasing? was it not you?—that he indolently abandoned himself to his lusts, forsaking his post in heaven? was it not you? And, indeed, you ascribe to him no mean favours; since, in your opinion, the god Hercules was born to exceed and surpass in such matters his father’s powers. He in nine nights begot with difficulty one son; but Hercules, a holy god, in one night taught the fifty daughters of Thestius at once to lay aside their virginal title, and to bear a mother’s burden. Moreover, not content to have ascribed to the gods love of women, do you also say that they lusted after men? Some one loves Hylas; another is engaged with Hyacinthus; that one burns with desire for Pelops; this one sighs more ardently for Chrysippus; Catamitus is carried off to be a favourite and cup-bearer; and Fabius, that he may be called Jove’s darling, is branded on the soft parts, and marked in the hinder.

Nam quid de illis amoribus dicam, quibus in foeminas sanctos incaluisse coelestes, vestris proditum litteris, atque auctoribus continetur? Numquid enim a nobis arguitur rex maris Amphitritas, Hippothoas, Amymonas, Menalippas, Alopas, per furiosae cupiditatis ardorem castimoniae virginitate privasse? Numquid Apollo Latonius immaculatus ille, castissimus, atque purus, Arsinoas, Aethusas, Hypsipylas, Marpessas, Zeuxippas, et Prothoas, Daphnas, et Steropas, inconsulti pectoris appetisse fervoribus? Numquid senex Saturnus jamdudum obsitus canis, atque annorum vetustate jam frigidus, nostris carminibus indicatur ab uxore in adulterio comprehensus induisse formam feri, et sub pecoris specie hinnitibus evolavisse jactatis? Jupiter ipse rex mundi, nonne a vobis infamatus est isse per innumeras species, et petulantis amoris flammam servilibus obumbravisse fallaciis? Numquid a nobis aliquando conscriptus est libidinosa ut perficeret furta, modo esse in aurum versus, modo in satyrum ludicrum, in draconem, in alitem, in taurum, et quod omnia genera contumeliarum transiliat, in formiculam parvulam, ut Clitoris videlicet filiam, Myrmidonis redderet apud Thessalos matrem? Quis illum in Alcmena novem noctibus fecit pervigilasse continuis? non vos? Quis in amoribus desidem derelicta coeli statione jacuisse? non vos? Et sane adjungitis beneficia non parva: siquidem vobis Deus Hercules natus est, qui in rebus hujusmodi patris sui transiret exuperaretque virtutes. Ille noctibus vix novem unam potuit prolem extundere, concinnare, compingere: at Hercules sanctus Deus natas quinquaginta de Thestio nocte una perdocuit, et nomen virginitatis exponere, et genitricum pondera sustinere. Quid quod non contenti foeminei generis attribuisse diis curas, etiam sexus adjungitis adamatos ab his mares? Hylam nescio quis diligit. Hyacintho est alius occupatus, ille Pelopis desideriis flagrat, hic in Chrysippum suspirat ardentius, Catamitus rapitur delicium futurus, et poculorum custos. Et ut Jovis dicatur pullus, in partibus Fabius aduritur mollibus, obsignaturque posticis.

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27. But among you, is it only the males who lust; and has the female sex preserved its purity? Is it not proved in your books that Tithonus was loved by Aurora; that Luna lusted after Endymion; the Nereid after Æacus; Thetis after Achilles’ father; Proserpina after Adonis; her mother, Ceres, after some rustic Jasion, and afterwards Vulcan, Phaeton, Mars; Venus herself, the mother of Æneas, and founder of the Roman power, to marry Anchises? While, therefore, you accuse, without making any exception, not one only by name, but the whole of the gods alike, in whose existence you believe, of such acts of extraordinary shamefulness and baseness, do you dare, without violation of modesty, to say either that we are impious, or that you are pious, although they receive from you much greater occasion for offence on account of all the shameful acts which you heap up to their reproach, than in connection with the service and duties required by their majesty, honour, and worship? For either all these things are false which you bring forward about them individually, lessening their credit and reputation; and it is in that case a matter quite deserving, that the gods should utterly destroy the race of men; or if they are true and certain, and perceived without any reasons for doubt, it comes to this issue, that, however unwilling you may be, we believe them to be not of heavenly, but of earthly birth.

Sed soli amant apud vos mares, et foemineo sexui sua conservata est sanctitas. Nonne vestris cautum est litteris adamatum esse ab Aurora Tithonum, arsisse in Endymionem Lunam, Nereidem in Aeacum, in Achillis genitorem Thetim, Proserpinam in Adonem, matrem ejus Cererem in Jasionem nescio quem rusticanum, et post Vulcanum, Phaethontem, Martem, in Anchisae nuptias ipsam illam Venerem Aeneadum matrem, et romanae dominationis auctorem? Cum talia igitur vos probra, et flagitiosa prodigia, non in unum aliquem nominatim, sed in omnem pariter superorum gentem, quam esse vos remini, sine ullius exceptione jaciatis, audetis, salva verecundia, dicere, aut esse nos impios, aut vos pios, cum multo majores ferant a vobis offensas ex omnibus probris quae in illorum maledicta conducitis, quam amplitudinis et honoris ex ritu atque officio cultionis? Aut enim falsa illa sunt cuncta, quae sunt prompta de singulis, existimationem illorum majestatemque laedentia: et res digna omnino est, propter quam dii funditus genus omne debeant abolere mortalium: aut si explorata et vera sunt, et sine ullis dubitationibus comprehensa, ad eam perducitur res summam, ut invitissimis vobis non generis superi, sed humani eos fuisse credamus.

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28. For where there are weddings, marriages, births, nurses, arts, and weaknesses; where there are liberty and slavery; where there are wounds, slaughter, and shedding of blood; where there are lusts, desires, sensual pleasures; where there is every mental passion arising from disgusting emotions,—there must of necessity be nothing godlike there; nor can that cleave to a superior nature which belongs to a fleeting race, and to the frailty of earth. For who, if only he recognises and perceives what the nature of that power is, can believe either that a deity had the generative members, and was deprived of them by a very base operation; or that he at one time cut off the children sprung from himself, and was punished by suffering imprisonment; or that he, in a way, made civil war upon his father, and deprived him of the right of governing; or that he, filled with fear of one younger when overcome, turned to flight, and hid in remote solitudes, like a fugitive and exile? Who, I say, can believe that the deity reclined at men’s tables, was troubled on account of his avarice, deceived his suppliants by an ambiguous reply, excelled in the tricks of thieves, committed adultery, acted as a slave, was wounded, and in love, and submitted to the seduction of impure desires in all the forms of lust? But yet you declare all these things both were, and are, in your gods; and you pass by no form of vice, wickedness, error, without bringing it forward, in the wantonness of your fancies, to the reproach of the gods. You must, therefore, either seek out other gods, to whom all these reproaches shall not apply, for they are a human and earthly race to whom they apply; or if there are only these whose names and character you have declared, by your beliefs you do away with them: for all the things of which you speak relate to men.

Ubi enim nuptiae, matrimonia, puerperia, nutrices, artificia, debilitates, ubi status capitis, et conditio servitutis, ubi vulnera, caedes, cruor, ubi amores, desideria, voluptates, ubi omnis animorum affectio ab inquietis perturbationibus veniens, necesse est divinum nihil istic esse: nec quod proprium caduci est generis, et terrenae fragilitatis, praestantiori posse adhaerere naturae. Quis est enim qui credat, si modo agnoscit ac percipit vis istius potentiae quae sit, aut genitales habuisse partes deum, et abscissione foedissima privatum his esse: aut ex se proditas aliquando intercepisse proles, et vinculorum coercitum poenis: aut cum patre quodammodo conseruisse bella civilia, et eum jure abstinuisse regali: aut exterritum minoris metu vertisse exuperatum terga, et tamquam fugitivum et exulem in submotis delituisse secretis? Quis est, inquam, qui credat ad humanas accubuisse deum mensas, interemptum avaritiae causa, fefellisse supplices ambiguitate responsi, praecellere in furtorum dolis, adulterasse, servisse, vulneratum esse, et adamasse, et per omnes libidinum formas incestarum cupiditatum circumegisse pellaciam? Atquin omnia vos ista et fuisse, et inesse in diis asseveratis vestris: neque ullam praetermittitis speciem vitiositatis, maleficii, lapsus, quam non in convicium numinum opinionum petulantia conferatis. Aut igitur vobis quaerendi sunt dii alii, in quos omnia ista non cadant: in quos enim haec cadunt, humani sunt generis atque terreni: aut si hi sunt tantummodo, quorum nomina publicastis et mores, opinionibus tollitis vestris. Mortalia sunt enim quaecumque narratis.

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29. And here, indeed, we can show that all those whom you represent to us as and call gods, were but men, by quoting either Euhemerus of Acragas, whose books were translated by Ennius into Latin that all might be thoroughly acquainted with them; or Nicanor the Cyprian; or the Pellæan Leon; or Theodorus of Cyrene; or Hippo and Diagoras of Melos; or a thousand other writers, who have minutely, industriously, and carefully brought secret things to light with noble candour. We may, I repeat, at pleasure, declare both the acts of Jupiter, and the wars of Minerva and the virgin Diana; by what stratagems Liber strove to make himself master of the Indian empire; what was the condition, the duty, the gain of Venus; to whom the great mother was bound in marriage; what hope, what joy was aroused in her by the comely Attis; whence came the Egyptian Serapis and Isis, or for what reasons their very names were formed.

Et possumus quidem hoc in loco omnes istos nobis quos inducitis atque appellatis deos, homines fuisse monstrare, vel Agragantino Evhemero replicato, cujus libellos Ennius, clarum ut fieret cunctis, sermonem in Italum transtulit; vel Nicanora Cyprio, vel Pellaeo Leonte, vel Cyrenensi Theodoro, vel Hippone ac Diagora Meliis, vel auctoribus aliis mille, qui scrupulosae diligentiae cura in lucem res abditas libertate ingenua protulerunt. Possumus, inquam, si placet, et Jovis res gestas, et Minervae expromere bella, virginis et Dianae; quibus dolis Liber Indorum affectaverit regnum, cujus fuerit conditionis Venus, cujus operae, cujus quaestus: matrimonium magna cujus tenuerit mater; quidnam spei, quid voluptatis specioso ab Attide conceperit. Unde Serapis Aegyptius, unde Isis, vel ex quibus causis appellatio ipsa concinnata sit nominum.

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30. But in the discussion which we at present maintain, we do not undertake this trouble or service, to show and declare who all these were. But this is what we proposed to ourselves, that as you call us impious and irreligious, and, on the other hand, maintain that you are pious and serve the gods, we should prove and make manifest that by no men are they treated with less respect than by you. But if it is proved by the very insults that it is so, it must, as a consequence, be understood that it is you who rouse the gods to fierce and terrible rage, because you either listen to or believe, or yourselves invent about them, stories so degrading. For it is not he who is anxiously thinking of religious rites, and slays spotless victims, who gives piles of incense to be burned with fire, not he must be thought to worship the deities, or alone discharge the duties of religion. True worship is in the heart, and a belief worthy of the gods; nor does it at all avail to bring blood and gore, if you believe about them things which are not only far remote from and unlike their nature, but even to some extent stain and disgrace both their dignity and virtue.

Sed non istam suscepimus in eo sermone, quem facimus, vel operulam, vel voluntatem, ut ostendamus et publicemus, quinam fuerint hi omnes. Illud nobis propositum est, ut quoniam nos impios et irreligiosos vocatis, vos contra pios et deorum contenditis esse cultores, demonstrare, atque in medio ponere ab hominibus magis nullis ignominiosius eos tractari, quam a vobis. Quod si habere se ita ex ipsis maledictionibus promptum est, sequitur ut intelligi debeat vos superis stimulos indignationum furialium commovere, qui tam foedas de illis vel auditis, vel creditis, vel ignominiosas ipsi compingitis fabulas. Non enim qui sollicite relegit, et immaculatas hostias caedit, qui acervos thuris dat concremandos igni, numina censendus est colere, aut officia solus religionis implere. Cultus verus in pectore est, atque opinatio de diis digna; nec quidquam prodest illatio sanguinis et cruoris, si credas de his ea quae non modo sint longe ab eorum dissita distantiaque natura, verum etiam labis et turpitudinis aliquid, et majestati eorum concilient, et decori.

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31. We wish, then, to question you, and invite you to answer a short question, Whether you think it a greater offence to sacrifice to them no victims, because you think that so great a being neither wishes nor desires these; or, with foul beliefs, to hold opinions about them so degrading, that they might rouse any one’s spirit to a mad desire for revenge? If the relative importance of the matters be weighed, you will find no judge so prejudiced as not to believe it a greater crime to defame by manifest insults any one’s reputation, than to treat it with silent neglect. For this, perhaps, may be held and believed from deference to reason; but the other course manifests an impious spirit, and a blindness despaired of in fiction. If in your ceremonies and rites neglected sacrifices and expiatory offerings may be demanded, guilt is said to have been contracted; if by a momentary forgetfulness any one has erred either in speaking or in pouring wine; or again, if at the solemn games and sacred races the dancer has halted, or the musician suddenly become silent,—you all cry out immediately that something has been done contrary to the sacredness of the ceremonies; or if the boy termed patrimus let go the thong in ignorance, or could not hold to the earth: and yet do you dare to deny that the gods are ever being wronged by you in sins so grievous, while you confess yourselves that, in less matters, they are often angry, to the national ruin?

Interrogare enim vos libet, et ad sermonis exigui responsionem vocare, utrumne gravius existimetis nullas caedere his hostias, quia putes naturam tantam neque velle, neque appetere istas; an talia de his probra opinionum foeditate concipere, quae cujusvis animum in ultionis possint rabiem concitare? Si rerum momenta pendantur, nullum reperias tam invidum judicem, qui non criminosius existimet maledictis insignibus cujuspiam famam carpi, quam a quoquam silentio praeteriri. Hos enim forsitan rationis existimari possit et credi; illud sacrilegae mentis est, et desperatae in fictionibus caecitatis. In caeremoniis vestris, rebusque divinis, postulionibus locus est, et piaculi dicitur contracta esse commissio, si per imprudentiae lapsum, aut in verbo quispiam, aut sympuvio deerrarit; aut si cursu in solennibus ludis, curriculisque divinis, commissum omnes statim in religiones clamatis sacras, si ludius constitit aut tibicen repente conticuit; aut si patrimus ille qui vocitatur puer, omisit per ignorantiam locorum, aut terram tenere non potuit; et audetis abnuere in delictis tam gravibus violari semper a vobis deos, cum in levioribus causis irasci eos ipsi cum pernicie saepius confiteamini civitatis?

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32. But all these things, they say, are the fictions of poets, and games arranged for pleasure. It is not credible, indeed, that men by no means thoughtless, who sought to trace out the character of the remotest antiquity, either did not insert in their poems the fables which survived in men’s minds and common conversation; or that they would have assumed to themselves so great licence as to foolishly feign what was almost sheer madness, and might give them reason to be afraid of the gods, and bring them into danger with men. But let us grant that the poets are, as you say, the inventors and authors of tales so disgraceful; you are not, however, even thus free from the guilt of dishonouring the gods, who either are remiss in punishing such offences, or have not, by passing laws, and by severity of punishments, opposed such indiscretion, and determined that no man should henceforth say that which tended to the dishonour, or was unworthy of the glory of the gods. For whoever allows the wrongdoer to sin, strengthens his audacity; and it is more insulting to brand and mark any one with false accusations, than to bring forward and upbraid their real offences. For to be called what you are, and what you feel yourself to be, is less offensive, because your resentment is checked by the evidence supplied against you on privately reviewing your life; but that wounds very keenly which brands the innocent, and defames a man’s honourable name and reputation.

Sed poetarum, inquiunt, figmenta sunt haec omnia, et ad voluptatem compositae lusiones. Non est quidem credibile homines minus brutos, et vetustatis remotissimae vestigatores, aut eas inseruisse suis carminibus fabulas, quae in notionibus hominum superessent, atque in auribus collocatae: aut ipsos sibi tantum licentiosi voluisse juris asciscere, ut confingerent per stultitiam res eas quae nec ab insania procul essent remotae, et quae illis a diis metum, et periculum possent ab hominibus comparare. Sed concedamus, ut dicitis, deformitatum tantarum concinnatores esse atque inventores poetas: immunes tamen a deorum maletractatione nec sic estis, qui aut talia cessatis maleficia vindicare: aut non legibus latis, et severitate poenarum tantae iistis obviam temeritati, constitutumque a vobis est, ne quis posthac hominum id quod esset turpitudini proximum, aut deorum indignum majestatibus loqueretur. Quisquis enim patitur peccare peccantem, is vires subministrat audaciae: et majoris contumeliae res est, falsis quemquam notare atque insignire criminibus, quam vera ingerere atque objectare delicta. Quod enim sis dici, et quod esse te sentias, morsum habet minorem testimonio tacitae recognitionis infractum. Illud vero acerbissime vulnerat, quod inurit innoxios, et quod decus nominis atque existimationis infamat.

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33. Your gods, it is recorded, dine on celestial couches, and in golden chambers, drink, and are at last soothed by the music of the lyre, and singing. You fit them with ears not easily wearied; and do not think it unseemly to assign to the gods the pleasures by which earthly bodies are supported, and which are sought after by ears enervated by the frivolity of an unmanly spirit. Some of them are brought forward in the character of lovers, destroyers of purity, to commit shameful and degrading deeds not only with women, but with men also. You take no care as to what is said about matters of so much importance, nor do you check, by any fear of chastisement at least, the recklessness of your wanton literature; others, through madness and frenzy, bereave themselves, and by the slaughter of their own relatives cover themselves with blood, just as though it were that of an enemy. You wonder at these loftily expressed impieties; and that which it was fitting should be subjected to all punishments, you extol with praise that spurs them on, so as to rouse their recklessness to greater vehemence. They mourn over the wounds of their bereavement, and with unseemly wailings accuse the cruel fates; you are astonished at the force of their eloquence, carefully study and commit to memory that which should have been wholly put away from human society, and are solicitous that it should not perish through any forgetfulness. They are spoken of as being wounded, maltreated, making war upon each other with hot and furious contests; you enjoy the description; and, to enable you to defend so great daring in the writers, pretend that these things are allegories, and contain the principles of natural science.

Scribuntur dii vestri in tricliniis coelestibus, atque in chalcidicis aureis coenitare, potare, et ad ultimum fidibus et vocum modulatione mulceri. Vos aures patientissimas commodatis: nec judicatis indignum voluptates attribui diis eas, quibus corpora terrena fulciuntur, et quas aures expetunt enervati pectoris dissolutione mollitae. Inducuntur ex his alii amatores, adulteri castitatis, nec cum foeminis tantum, sed cum viris etiam propudiosos flagitiososque miscere concubitus. Vobis nulla est cura, quid super rebus dicatur tantis, neque ullo saltem castigationis metu luxuriantium litterarum coercetis audaciam. Per insanias, per furores orbare alii se, et tamquam hostili de sanguine, ita se proprio parricidio cruentare. Sacrilegia vos illa miramini elata sublimiter, et quod poenis omnibus conveniebat plecti, ut animosius consurgat audacia, incentivo extollitis laudis. Illi vulnera orbitatis ingemere, et cum ejulatibus indecoris fata incusare crudelia: vos stupetis eloquentiae viribus, et quod penitus oportebat ex humani generis coalitu tolli, percensetis, ediscitis: ac ne ulla intercidat oblivione curatis. Vulnerari, vexari, bella inter se gerere furialium memorantur ardore discriminum: vobis illa est descriptio voluptati, atque ut scriptorum tantam defendatis audaciam, allegorias res illas, et naturalis scientiae mentimini esse doctrinas.

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34. But why do I complain that you have disregarded the insults offered to the other deities? That very Jupiter, whose name you should not have spoken without fear and trembling over your whole body, is described as confessing his faults when overcome by lust of his wife, and, hardened in shamelessness, making known, as if he were mad and ignorant, the mistresses he preferred to his spouse, the concubines he preferred to his wife; you say that those who have uttered so marvellous things are chiefs and kings among poets endowed with godlike genius, that they are persons most holy; and so utterly have you lost sight of your duty in the matters of religion which you bring forward, that words are of more importance, in your opinion, than the profaned majesty of the immortals. So then, if only you felt any fear of the gods, or believed with confident and unhesitating assurance that they existed at all, should you not, by bills, by popular votes, by fear of the senate’s decrees, have hindered, prevented, and forbidden any one to speak at random of the gods otherwise than in a pious manner? Nor have they obtained this honour even at your hands, that you should repel insults offered to them by the same laws by which you ward them off from yourselves. They are accused of treason among you who have whispered any evil about your kings. To degrade a magistrate, or use insulting language to a senator, you have made by decree a crime, followed by the severest punishment. To write a satirical poem, by which a slur is cast upon the reputation and character of another, you determined, by the decrees of the decemvirs, should not go unpunished; and that no one might assail your ears with too wanton abuse, you established formulæ for severe affronts. With you only the gods are unhonoured, contemptible, vile; against whom you allow any one liberty to say what he will, to accuse them of the deeds of baseness which his lust has invented and devised. And yet you do not blush to raise against us the charge of want of regard for deities so infamous, although it is much better to disbelieve the existence of the gods than to think they are such, and of such repute.

Sed quid ego neglectas aliorum conqueror contumelias numinum? Ipse ille Jupiter, cujus vos nomen effari non sine metu decuit et totius corporis concussione, amasio captus ab uxore describitur confiteri culpas suas, et velut demens ac nescius, quas amiculas conjugi, quas uxori anteposuerit pellices, obduratus inverecundia publicare: vos talia qui extulere prodigia, poetarum esse principes atque reges divinis ingeniis praeditos, capita esse memoratis sanctissima: tantumque ab officio religionum, quas inducitis, evolastis, ut gravioris ponderis sint apud vos verba quam coelitum violata sublimitas. Ita ergo non decuit, si modo ullus deorum esset apud vos metus, aut si esse illos uspiam praesumptionis certae confidentia crederetis, rogationibus, plebiscitis, consultorum senatus metu intercedere, prohibere, sancire, ne quis vellet de diis passim nisi quod esset plenum religionis, effari. Nec a vobis saltem istum meruerunt honorem, ut quibus expellitis a vobis, eisdem ab his legibus propulsaretis injurias. Majestatis sunt apud vos rei, qui de vestris sequius obmurmuraverint aliquid regibus. Magistratum in ordinem redigere, senatorem aut convitio prosequi, suis esse decrestis periculosissimum poenis. Carmen malum conscribere, quo fama alterius coinquinatur et vita, decemviralibus scitis evadere noluistis impune: ac ne vestras aures convicio aliquis petulantiore pulsaret, de atrocibus formulas constituistis injuriis. Soli sunt apud vos superi inhonorati, contemptibiles, viles: in quos jus est a vobis datum, quae quisque voluerit dicere: turpitudinum jacere, quas libido confixerit, atque excogitaverit formas. Et incuriam nobis intendere tam infamium non erubescitis numinum, cum sit rectius multo deos esse non credere, quam esse illos tales, talique existimatione sentire.

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35. But is it only poets whom you have thought proper to allow to invent unseemly tales about the gods, and to turn them shamefully into sport? What do your pantomimists, the actors, that crowd of mimics and adulterers? Do they not abuse your gods to make to themselves gain, and do not the others find enticing pleasures in the wrongs and insults offered to the gods? At the public games, too, the colleges of all the priests and magistrates take their places, the chief Pontiffs, and the chief priests of the curiæ; the Quindecemviri take their places, crowned with wreaths of laurel, and the flamines diales with their mitres; the augurs take their places, who disclose the divine mind and will; and the chaste maidens also, who cherish and guard the ever-burning fire; the whole people and the senate take their places; the fathers who have done service as consuls, princes next to the gods, and most worthy of reverence; and, shameful to say, Venus, the mother of the race of Mars, and parent of the imperial people, is represented by gestures as in love, and is delineated with shameless mimicry as raving like a Bacchanal, with all the passions of a vile harlot. The Great Mother, too, adorned with her sacred fillets, is represented by dancing; and that Pessinuntic Dindymene is, to the dishonour of her age, represented as with shameful desire using passionate gestures in the embrace of a herdsman; and also in the Trachiniæ of Sophocles, that son of Jupiter, Hercules, entangled in the toils of a death-fraught garment, is exhibited uttering piteous cries, overcome by his violent suffering, and at last wasting away and being consumed, as his intestines soften and are dissolved. But in these tales even the Supreme Ruler of the heavens Himself is brought forward, without any reverence for His name and majesty, as acting the part of an adulterer, and changing His countenance for purposes of seduction, in order that He might by guile rob of their chastity matrons, who were the wives of others, and putting on the appearance of their husbands, by assuming the form of another.

Sed poetis tantummodo licere voluistis indignas de diis fabulas, et flagitiosa ludibria comminisci? Quid pantomimi vestri, quid histriones, quid illa mimorum, atque exoleti generis multitudo? Nonne ad usum quaestus sui abutuntur diis vestris, et lenocinia voluptatum ex injuriis attrahit contumeliisque divinis? Sedent et in spectaculis publicis sacerdotum omnium, magistratuumque collegia, pontifices maxim, et maximi curiones; sedent quindecim viri laureati, et diales cum apicibus flamines; sedent augures interpretes divinae mentis et voluntatis, necnon et castae virgines, perpetui nutrices et conservatrices ignis; sedet cunctus populus et senatus; consulatibus functi patres, diis proximi atque augustissimi reges; et quod nefarium esset auditu, gentis illa genitrix Martiae, regnatoris et populi procreatrix amans saltatur Venus, et per affectus omnes meretriciae vilitatis impudica exprimitur imitatione bacchari. Saltatur et magna sacris compta cum infulis mater; et contra decus aetatis illa Pessinuntia Dindymene, in bubulci unius amplexu flagitiosa fingitur appetitione gestire, necnon et illa proles Jovis Sophoclis in Trachiniis Hercules pestiferi tegminis circumretitus indagine, miserabiles edere inducitur ejulatus, violentia doloris frangi, atque in ultimam tabem diffluentium viscerum maceratione consumi. Quin et ille in fabulis maximus ipse regnator poli sine ulla nominis majestatisque formidine adulterorum agere introducitur partes, atque ut fallere castitatem alienarum possit familias matrum, ora immutare pellacia, et in species conjugum subdititii corporis simulatione succedere.

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36. But this crime is not enough: the persons of the most sacred gods are mixed up with farces also, and scurrilous plays. And that the idle onlookers may be excited to laughter and jollity, the deities are hit at in jocular quips, the spectators shout and rise up, the whole pit resounds with the clapping of hands and applause. And to the debauched scoffers at the gods gifts and presents are ordained, ease, freedom from public burdens, exemption and relief, together with triumphal garlands,—a crime for which no amends can be made by any apologies. And after this do you dare to wonder whence these ills come with which the human race is deluged and overwhelmed without any interval, while you daily both repeat and learn by heart all these things, with which are mixed up libels upon the gods and slanderous sayings; and when you wish your inactive minds to be occupied with useless dreamings, demand that days be given to you, and exhibition made without any interval? But if you felt any real indignation on behalf of your religious beliefs, you should rather long ago have burned these writings, destroyed those books of yours, and overthrown these theatres, in which evil reports of your deities are daily made public in shameful tales. For why, indeed, have our writings deserved to be given to the flames? our meetings to be cruelly broken up, in which prayer is made to the Supreme God, peace and pardon are asked for all in authority, for soldiers, kings, friends, enemies, for those still in life, and those freed from the bondage of the flesh; in which all that is said is such as to make men humane, gentle, modest, virtuous, chaste, generous in dealing with their substance, and inseparably united to all embraced in our brotherhood?

Nec satis haec culpa est, etiam mimis, et scurrilibus ludicris sanctissimorum personae interponuntur deorum. Et ut spectatoribus vacuis risus possit atque hilaritas excitari, jocularibus feriuntur cavillationibus numina, conclamant, et assurgunt theatra, caveae omnes concrepant fragoribus atque plausibus. Et quod nullis possit satisfactionibus expiari, exoletis atque irrisoribus numinum dona instituuntur et munera, ab officiis otium publicis, immunitas, et vacatio cum coronis. Et audetis post ista mirari unde oriantur haec mala, quibus inundatur et premitur sine ulla intermissione mortalitas; cum omnis res eas, quibus sunt involuta probra numinum, et maledictionis elogia, et quotidie referatis, et ediscatis quotidie; et quando animum desidem otiosis vultis hallucinationibus occupari, dies vobis poscatis dari, et sine ullis intermissionibus exiberi. Quod si haberet vos aliqua vestris pro religionibus indignatio, has potius litteras, hos exurere debuistis olim libros, demoliri, dissolvere theatra haec potius, in quibus infamiae numinum propudiosis quotidie publicantur in fabulis. Nam nostra quidem scripta cur ignibus meruerunt dari? cur immaniter conventicula dirui? in quibus summus oratur Deus, pax cunctis et venia postulatur magistratibus, exercitibus, regibus, familiaribus, inimicis, adhuc vitam degentibus, et resolutis corporum vinctione; in quibus aliud auditur nihil, nisi quod humanos faciat, nisi quod mites, verecundos, pudicos, castos, familiaris communicatores rei, et cum omnibus, quos solidet germanitas, necessitudine copulatos.

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37. But this is the state of the case, that as you are exceedingly strong in war and in military power, you think you excel in knowledge of the truth also, and are pious before the gods, whose might you have been the first to besmirch with foul imaginings. Here, if your fierceness allows, and madness suffers, we ask you to answer us this: Whether you think that anger finds a place in the divine nature, or that the divine blessedness is far removed from such passions? For if they are subject to passions so furious, and are excited by feelings of rage as your imaginings suggest,—for you say that they have often shaken the earth with their roaring, and bringing woful misery on men, corrupted with pestilential contagion the character of the times, both because their games had been celebrated with too little care, and because their priests were not received with favour, and because some small spaces were desecrated, and because their rites were not duly performed,—it must consequently be understood that they feel no little wrath on account of the opinions which have been mentioned. But if, as follows of necessity, it is admitted that all these miseries with which men have long been overwhelmed flow from such fictions, if the anger of the deities is excited by these causes, you are the occasion of so terrible misfortunes, because you never cease to jar upon the feelings of the gods, and excite them to a fierce desire for vengeance. But if, on the other hand, the gods are not subject to such passions, and do not know at all what it is to be enraged, then indeed there is no ground for saying that they who know not what anger is are angry with us, * and they are free from its presence, and the disorder it causes. For it cannot be, in the nature of things, that what is one should become two; and that unity, which is naturally uncompounded, should divide and go apart into separate things.

Verum ita se res habet, ut quoniam plurimum gladiis, et potestate valetis ferri, anteire vos etiam veritatis scientia judicetis: et esse pro diis pios, quorum potentias primi opinionum obscoenitate foedastis. Hoc in loco, si ferocitas vestra permittit, et rabies patitur, illud nobis ut respondeatis, oramus: utrumne iras cadere in naturam existimetis deorum, an ab affectibus his longe divinam esse beatitudinem disjugatam? Nam si concipiunt has faces, et motibus exasperantur irarum, sicut vestrae opinationes ferunt; nam saepe illos dicitis et propter ludos minus sollicite factos, et propter praesules non probatos, et propter quaedam spatiola defanata, et propter caeremonias non rite perfectas, tremoribus infremuisse terrarum, et contagione pestilentiae corrupisse auras temporum luctuosa cum populi vastitate, sequitur ut intelligi debeat iracundias non parvas ex opinionibus eos continere praedictis. Quod si datur, et illud necessario consequens, miserias has omnes, quibus olim genus accumulatur humanum, ab hujusmodi fluere fictionibus; quod si ab his causis indignatio proficiscitur numinum, miseriarum tantarum vos estis auctores, qui animos coelitum non cessatis offendere, et ultionis in rabiem concitare. Sin autem ab hujusmodi furiis deorum est genus immune, neque quid sit irasci dii omnino noverunt: et nobis ergo irasci sine ulla ratione dicuntur, qui ira quid sit ignorant, et ab ejus comptu, et permixtione sunt absoluti.

Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, A. Cleveland Coxe (eds.), Buffalo: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1885-1896. Public domain: English translation first published 1885-1900 (Ante-Nicene Fathers). Latin: Migne, Patrologia Latina (1844-1855), public domain; transcription from Corpus Corporum (University of Zurich).

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